Feb 11

My $30,000 Student Loan Mistake

student debt survivor mistakeHave you ever felt like you’re the lead character in a movie playing on slow motion? You know, like you can see yourself making a mistake, but can’t stop it from happening? Well, here’s my $30,000 student loan mistake:

8 years ago on a cold rainy morning in May, my family proudly watched me march across the stage and shake hands with my University’s president. As I posed for my photo, freshly printed diploma in hand, I had no idea how my student debt would impact my life. It wasn’t until 3 months later, when I actually started receiving the bills in the mail, that I realized how much of a financial mess I was in. Owing so much money felt daunting. I felt like someone had punched me in the stomach and I couldn’t catch my breath.

You’d think that’s when I’d get my financial “act” together, right? $20,000 in non-defaultable debt at age 22 should have snapped me back into reality pretty quick. But it didn’t. I was young, stupid and irresponsible. Instead of buckling down and paying off my debt, I decided that I wanted to go back to school to get my graduate degree. Add another 10K to my undergraduate debt and I was hovering at just over $30k. $30,304.87 to be exact, but who’s counting right?

Shortly after I earned my masters degree, I ran a few numbers in an online loan calculator program and, “learned” that I’d owe nearly $350 per month and would pay back $11,500 in interest alone. Ouch! You’d think that somebody would have told me that when I signed up for $30K in student loans, right? Oh yeah, They DID! But was I paying attention? NO! I signed on the dotted line and didn’t even think about what the future payments or consequences would be. I figured I’d worry about that, “later”. Well later came quicker then I’d thought…Look for a post next week HERE detailing how I came to my senses and paid off $30k in student loan debt.

Did You Take Out Student Loans? Do You Wish You Hadn’t?

 

Loan Balance: $30,000.00
Adjusted Loan Balance: $30,000.00
Loan Interest Rate: 6.80%
Loan Fees: 0.00%
Loan Term: 10 years
Minimum Payment: $50.00
Total Years in College: 4 years
Average Debt per Year: $7,500.00
Monthly Loan Payment: $345.24
Number of Payments: 120
Cumulative Payments: $41,428.97
Total Interest Paid: $11,428.97

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  1. I ended up paying all my student debt up front as I knew I didn’t want to be saddled with all the interest repayments.

    1. An excellent plan! Interest is no fun to say the least.

  2. I made a super long post about my student loans a while ago too (http://www.makingsenseofcents.com/2012/11/student-loan-plan.html)! I’m working on having my student loans gone by next month, and possibly April at the latest. I can’t wait until they’re gone because I hate them so much.

    1. Woo hoo! Two months until student debt freedom! When I made my final payment I practically threw a party I was so excited. Getting that “monkey” off your back feels so good.

  3. Oh, KK, I get how you feel, even if our debt wasn’t student loan debt but other debt. I suppose though, what’s done is done, right? You’ll (and we will) be out of debt before we know it. 🙂

    1. Thanks Laurie. I’m debt free now, watch for a post next week that details how I paid off my loans. Keep plugging away, slow and steady (or fast and steady if you can do it) wins the debt race.

  4. I wish I had those kind of numbers 🙁 I paid for my entire undergrad and grad school with loans (very little but a bit with credit cards) and now have $122,000 in student loan debt.

    1. Many of my friends are in similar financial spot as you. Although my debt felt huge, I totally recognize and respect that I was fortunate to “only” have $30K in student loans. Many many people have so much more. You’ll get there, just keep fighting to pay them down.

  5. You better believe I wish I hadn’t taken out $79,000 in student loans ($96k easily after interest capitalized)! The biggest mistake of my life, next to falling for a for-profit school and believing their lies!

    1. Ugg don’t even get me started on the for-profit schools. I’m sorry that happened to you. You’ll beat them, it’s not easy, but you’re motivated and dedicated, so you’ll do it.

      • briodicuore on October 10, 2013 at 8:39 pm
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      You better believe I wish I hadn’t taken out $150,000 in graduate school loans.

  6. I didn’t take out student loans for college, but one of my friends who did, stopped making payments towards it and they ended up atttaching themselves to her paycheck and getting their money that way. Student loans are no joke…

    1. For real, you can’t bankrupt them and they will follow you until you die. Pretty scary really.

  7. ouch! I was lucky not to take out loans, but tuition was cheap. I paid for all my living expenses with jobs and graduated with $25K in savings. It impacted my grades a bit as I didn’t study as much as a student with no job but I did pretty good and am rarely using my degree anyway..

    1. What a “novel” idea, pay for your living expenses out of pocket, work while you go to school and chose a school with reasonable tuition rates. Pauline, you are my hero. You did exactly what I should have done and what I now encourage other people to do.

  8. I don’t have loans from either undergraduate or grad school but my husband has loans from both. He wasn’t very responsible with his undergraduate loans and took out way more than he needed to “live”, even though he had a job (or 2). He was better with his grad school loans, particularly once his scholarship came through and he didn’t need loans, but the $40K we’re paying down? Not fun at all.

    1. Ugg, I have an upcoming post about paying student loans when one partner has none and the other has a bunch. Good for you for hanging in there with him and paying it down.

  9. I don’t regret my student loans because it was the only way I could afford my university education but I do regret spending the extra loan money on stupid things like drinking and clubbing. But you live and learn I guess.

    P.S. I can’t wait to read your post on when one partner has none and the other has a bunch!

    1. I took more then I needed in undergrad, but thankfully by the time I got to grad school I recognized I’d have to pay that money back. That drinking and clubbing has probably turned out to be the most expensive drinking and clubbing I ever did 😉

  10. Yes. I took out $41,726 in student loans and now it’s up to nearly $46,000. I would honestly give my degree back to get rid of the debt. I wish I could have included it in bankruptcy. I really don’t like having it.

    1. yup, that’s part of what makes student loans so scary, they aren’t bankruptable. Hang in there, you’ll make it through.

  11. 6.8% rate is crazy!! You will hate me for saying this, but as Scottish people we don’t pay tuition at all – we get it paid for by the government! 🙂

    1. No hate here, I’m glad for you. I wish that the states would catch on and catch up with other countries and the ways they manage education. It’s insane how much we spend on school, and the honest truth is that our high school diplomas don’t really mean much anymore. We’re way behind other countries and need to catch up. Sad!

    2. No hate from me. Mine is reserved for the government, my school, and for people in the U.S. whose parents pay for their education. Haha.

  12. I had enough cash to pay off my student loans, but still borrowed $16k for no real reason. Pretty dumb. Now, of course, i don’t have the cash to pay them off….ugh!

    1. Ah hindsight is 20-20 right? I sure have made my fair share of dumb mistakes. Student loans was one of many.

  13. Funny, I’m in the process of writing about my experience w/ school loans…I’ll gladly trade your 30 k for my 100k….

    1. I’m all set, thanks 😉

  14. Luckily I was able to have the Army pay for my education. I’m very interested to see how you tackled this debt. Don’t beat yourself up too much, because of the lack of financial education in our public schools a lot of loan officers (in my opinion) take advantage of young ambitious men & women who want an education.

    1. Very smart. I think there’s a lot of folks who could and should take advantage of the military. Teaches good self-discipline and also pays for your education, a win-win if you’re the type of person who would do well in that environment. My grandfather told me the other day his biggest regret was not getting an education with the GI bill. It made me kind of sad.

      No beating up here. Debt is paid, lesson learned. Now I’m just talking to everybody I know about how to avoid student loans and not put themselves into a mess it takes years to clean up.

  15. I graduated debt-free (full scholarship), but my husband took out about $50K in student loans for his degree at RIT.

    To be fair, he got a great job straight out of college (paid internship that went full-time when he graduated) while I’m still working two jobs to make ends meet. So his degree was definitely worthwhile.

    However, the fact that we’re throwing away over $500 per month on his student loans really sucks (for lack of a better word)… and that’s just the minimum payment!

    1. Good for you! Full scholarships are definitely the way to go if you can get one. Paying back student loans is pretty painful, but at least your husband got a good job as a result of his degree/education.

  16. Funny how our mind tricks us into thinking that things will always be better later. Often they are much worse. Looking forward to hearing the rest of your story.

    1. Thanks Brain. Yeah our minds do funny things. Stay tuned 🙂

  17. Ach! I’m still paying on my student loans. But, I’m making progress which I know is insurance for the rest of my goals. It can lead to some sleepless nights knowing how much you owe but slowly and steadily it’s getting taken care of.

    1. It’s a tough journey, hang in there. Once they’re paid you’ll sleep so much better!

  18. I’m basically in the same boat: i graduated in May and in November had to start making the payments… I only worked part-time at Target so really couldn’t afford rent+ utilities+ student loans… so naturally I dinged up my credit card really bad to help sustain me. In December I came to the realization that I didn’t want to do this anymore, so decided to sign up for my master’s degree– which is where I am now– because I knew, I could at least defer the loans while in school. I’m getting my master’s degree in 2014 in education, I’ll be certified in NY grades 1-6 so at least there’s more of an opportunity for me to travel around and get a job vs being certified in only one subject. I’m *hoping* to get something decent right after I graduate in May so I can move during the summer and start fall 2014, because obviously I’ll have to repay the loans in November 2014. Since I receive NO AID for grad school, I had to take out 11K more in loans just for this semester + 10K or so next year so I’m looking at owing around 40,000 when all is said and done. Is that a lot of money? Yes. But it’s an investment… a lot of people borrow all kinds of money for all kinds of things… and look at lawyers and doctors who spend $100,000 financing their education… but it’s worth it in the end, right? At least it used to be. Though with the economy the way it is now, there probably won’t be any jobs next year when I graduate again. (sigh) Maybe I’ll just stay in school forever. Dare to dream!

  19. Ouch that is a lot of debt. I didn’t have student loans, but had debt from other areas. I never could take loans out for school, even if it means I am in school for another 10 years. I don’t know something about seeing the payments per month made me want to throw up. I am currently still pursuing my degree, but I also have side jobs to help out, so I won’t be taking out ANY loans. I did have a tiny loan for my car and house, but I couldn’t even stand those.

  20. This is the new “gotcha” for our newly minted graduates. Here is a question: If you knew what you know now, would you have done anything different. Would you have gotten a job while at college? Would you have gotten a summer job?
    The silver lining here is that you got these degrees and your debt is not just stupid credit card debt.

      • KK on March 19, 2013 at 9:38 am
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      True true. The irony is, I’ve never had any sort of credit card debt and haven’t gotten myself into any “money trouble” so to speak, except for taking out student loans. Knowing what I know now I probably would have gone to a cheaper university (instate). I did work during school and summers and made pretty decent money for a kid, but I could have worked more hours during the school year.

    • vanessa on April 30, 2013 at 10:44 pm
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    this is so scary for me.. I am a senior in high school and I got into UC Davis. I accepted the admission with the dreadful and miserable thought of being 36,000 ( estimate) dollars in debt for those four years… im starting to feel if it was a mistake, if I should’ve gone to community college. what if I cant pay it off? what if I don’t get a good job after I graduate? what about my masters degree???

      • KK on May 2, 2013 at 10:53 pm
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      If you know what you want to do (and it will pay you a decent salary in proportion to the debt) then it might not be the worst thing to take out the loans. What I learned from my mistakes are: pay for your living expenses if you can (don’t take out loans for them-get a job or do whatever you have to do to avoid loans), chose a school you can afford, and be sure about what you want to do when you graduate. If you’re unsure about what you want to do, or will go into a profession that doesn’t pay well I’d consider community college for a couple of years first. With the job market being what it is, you don’t want to dig yourself into a hole you can’t shovel yourself out of 😉 Shoot me an e-mail if you have questions I might be able to help you with. And congrats on your acceptance!

    • Amanda on May 27, 2013 at 12:03 am
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    I am in a similiar boat. I will be paying for college on my own and my only option is to take out loans. If I decide to go to a university I will be in around 30-40,000$ in debt when I graduate or I can take the junior college route and probably of be around 15- 20,000$ in debt .. I am planning on becoming a special education teacher so I won’t be making alot of money so I am questioning if it smart to take on so much debt at a university or if I should transfer later? Any advice would be amazing! I will be a freshman next year, fall 2013.
    Thanks!

      • KK on May 27, 2013 at 10:52 am
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      Hi Amanda. I can only speak from person experience, but I think (unless there’s something I’m missing about why the expensive university would be a better option), I’d go for the junior college then transfer after 2 years to a state university. Not only are the community colleges cheaper, they often give you more personalized attention. One caveat, if you’re eligible for grants and scholarships at the private school it might be cheaper-price it out! I paid less for my undergraduate education at a private school-with scholarships-then I would have paid at my state university. Good luck!

    • Jck3d on July 13, 2013 at 11:13 am
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    Sometimes there is no way around it. Who else was going to pay for it? I’ve accumulated much more debt in loans with 15 years of post high school education. (My loans are around 240,000 as of right now with interest rates ranging from 3.5 – 6.5%). Undergraduate only totaled about 10k but medical school accumulated 200k. Post medical school training (residency), we get paid ~50k and can defer payment.
    I came from a poor middle class family and there was no way to do this without loans. Am I worried about my loans – absolutely. Should I not have taken them? That’s a silly question because I had no choice – who was going to flip my bill? No one. I chose the path I did and had to take the loans I took.
    My biggest concern now is being able to pay them back in an era of people feeling that doctors don’t deserve to be paid very much. Do I regret taking them? Absolutely not. If I chose a community college, in total honestly, I would not have had the opportunities that opened up to me and I would not be in the position I am at now.

      • KK on July 14, 2013 at 8:52 am
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      Thanks for commenting. I think what you’re saying is definitely true and a good example of “you have to do what works for you.” Obviously medical school was the right decision for you (if that’s what you love) and with costs that high there’s really not much you can do to avoid going into debt. I know some people who have joined the military or done a joint md/phd program to defer cost, but those options aren’t right for everyone.

      The truth is, most students don’t have someone who can or will pay for their tuition What I’ve come to learn is: if you have to take out the loans, pay them back as fast as possible by living a lifestyle you can afford and making some sacrifices (keep living like a med student when you get the doctor’s salary for a few years and you should be able to wipe out those loans). Good luck and keep us updated on your progress!

    • Whitney Fletcher on July 23, 2013 at 3:33 pm
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    I should have about $8,000 in student loans when I graduate with a degree in Marketing. I’m stressed a little, because I have no other debt (paid cash for my car) and 8k seems like a lot to leave with from an undergrad. Any opinions about this? Whether or not I should be concerned?

      • KK on July 23, 2013 at 9:14 pm
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      I wouldn’t be panicked if I was you, but I would want to have a plan about how (and how quickly I was going to pay down the debt). Thankfully you owe $8K not $80K like a lot of students, that tells me that you probably have been budgeting and watching your money carefully. Keep living like a student when you finish school and pay down the debt as fast as you can. I think you’ll be just fine. Come back and let us know when you’re debt free! 🙂

        • nansi on October 31, 2013 at 8:10 pm
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        hi, i am the mom of two college graduates, both are saddled with combined college debt of over 144,ooo dollars. My daughter just got a good job in march three years later after she graduated, my son graduated this past may and still has no job only part time offerings at 7.75 an hour with monthly college debt totaling 536.00. My message to some of your high school kids asking for advice, be ware colleges are going to do everything they can to get you to go there and for some of the colleges like my kids went to, they couldnt get in the front door until my husband and i presented our tax returns. Be smart go to junior college first and get your gen eds, its 3000 dollars verses 30,000 dollars and it s the same material just a whole lot cheaper, and make sure u do your research into what you are going to study, make sure u can still get a job with your four year degree when you are done, congrats and good luck to the high school kids on this blog site.

          • KK on October 31, 2013 at 9:39 pm
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          Good advice Nansi, I appreciate you coming by and sharing your story. You’re absolutely right that colleges are often more interested in your wallet than your brain. Community college is a great option for keeping costs manageable. Choosing a degree that will “translate” into a marketable job is also really important. You might have an interest in underwater basket weaving, but how many jobs are their for underwater basket weavers? Not many I’d imagine.

    • BillyJack on August 5, 2013 at 3:16 pm
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    I am so glad I stumbled on this website and read many post here. I will NOT! be taking a college loan out….ever. I’ve been out of work for a very long time now. Money in savings almost gone. I have family and friends that recently graduated college and cannot get a job, it’s very sad. My background was in Information Technology since 1996. Very few I.T. jobs left in this country as most went to India and some Asian countries. Looking for a career change and I thought college would help by working on a different degree. Now I’m convinced college is the wrong decision especially financially.

      • KK on October 31, 2013 at 9:42 pm
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      I strongly recommend paying for college in cash and working while you’re in school instead of taking out student loans. I know I’m very lucky that I was able to pay off my loans quickly (no kids, no other bills, decent paying job, had a roommate etc. etc.). Not everybody has the ability to “live on nothing” and throw all of their cash towards loans. Plus like you mentioned, if you take out loans and then can’t get a job you’ll be in a really tough financial situation.

    • Amy on October 13, 2013 at 3:17 pm
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    I got my masters with $60,000 of DOEd. only student debt in 2001. It did allow me to get a job that allows me to pay it. I could only afford minimum pymts for several years and the loans grew. I switched away from dept of Ed to save a little on interest and got screwed by Great Lakes. I switched back to DOE to take advantage of public service forgiveness after 10 years a few years ago, but it won’t do me any good. So I just started throwing as much money as I could at it. I pay about 1650/mo and plan to try to sell my house and use whatever meager money I make off that. So, 12 years after graduation I still owe about 25,000. I won’t have a down payment for a new house and will have to rent until i do. But will hopefully have the damn student loan paid off. What a racket, especially since you can’t refinance.

      • KK on October 31, 2013 at 9:52 pm
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      Ugg, sorry to hear you’re going through all that Amy. Unfortunately your story is far more common than most colleges/financial institutions would admit. Fortunately it sounds like you have a solid plan for beating the debt and getting your financial life back in order. Thanks for sharing your story. I hope it inspires others to avoid student loans.

    • Dimitri on April 2, 2014 at 8:59 am
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    im looking at a 30,000 dollar student loan for mizzou. is a business degree from mizzou worth it?

    • So unsure on April 27, 2015 at 10:13 pm
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    I am 38!i graduate in May 60000 in debt , I was told a college degree would help me get further in life ,I am looking for a job ,and plan on living very poorly just so I can pay off my debt , I am greatful for the degree but depressed because of the amount going to catholic school,wish me luck

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